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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: ala Wapati ... and Beyond Reply with quote

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# ala wapati

...9........461.9...6..7.5..527.6.89..3...6..96.1.452..7.5..2...8.642........9... #016
...2.67..2..1...9..71.396...6...3....2..9..6....6...8...296.84..8...1..6..54.2... #017
84.9....1.6....9....91.4.65.1.7.....2.6.4.5.7.....1.9.67.2.31....2....3.3....6.79 #018
.18.....4.421...387........2..4..35.3...8...7.76..3..1........392...781.8.....47. #020
..4268.9.81......4..51.4.7.15...........9...........85.2.8.59..5......18.8.9712.. #022

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# and beyond ???

8..9...3.93...1.26..62....8.8.64.................13.6.2....53..16.3...85.9...2..1 #002
6.45........6..8...15.....65..8..21.29..3..68.68..9..34.....93...9..3........81.2 #007
..215.6..65.....2.4.8..2.....5..326..2..6..8..462..1.....5..9.6.6.....18..3.165.. #015
3..4..58.2.185.4.9........661..7...5.........5...4..981........9.6.841.7.85..6..4 #019
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice puzzles!

Here is my kick at the can. Swordfish, maybe jellyfish. Lots!


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. . 1|9 . 6|. 8 5
6 5 .|. . .|. . 4
. . .|. . .|. . .
-----+-----+-----
. . 4|. . 9|. 1 .
8 6 .|2 . 1|. 5 7
. 2 .|6 . .|8 . .
-----+-----+-----
. . .|. . .|. . .
4 . .|. . .|. 7 2
2 3 .|1 . 4|6 . .
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wapati wrote:
Here is my kick at the can. Swordfish, maybe jellyfish. Lots!

Impressive!!!

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Locked Candidate 1
Naked  Quad
Swordfish
finned/Sashimi X-Wing (3x possible)
Locked Candidate 1
Locked Candidate 2
Swordfish, Sashimi (3 strong links)
Swordfish, Franken (unfinned)
finned/Sashimi Jellyfish (2x possible)
Colors/X-Colors/Templates/???
Swordfish (maybe)
XYZ-Wing (3x possible)
XY-Wing
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3x Swordfish (hint: XY-Wing before Colors in hierarchy goes quicker)

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 *-----------------------*
 | 4 . . | . 7 . | . . 5 |
 | . 9 8 | . 5 . | . 7 . |
 | . . 5 | . . 8 | 4 . 1 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . 6 | 8 . . | 1 . . |
 | . 8 . | . 1 . | . 5 . |
 | . . 4 | . . 9 | 8 . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | 8 . 9 | 5 . . | 2 . . |
 | . 3 . | . 9 . | 5 4 . |
 | 6 . . | . 8 . | . . 9 |
 *-----------------------*
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: ala Wapati ... and Beyond Reply with quote

daj95376 wrote:
[code]# ala wapati

[code]# and beyond ???

8..9...3.93...1.26..62....8.8.64.................13.6.2....53..16.3...85.9...2..1 #002
6.45........6..8...15.....65..8..21.29..3..68.68..9..34.....93...9..3........81.2 #007
..215.6..65.....2.4.8..2.....5..326..2..6..8..462..1.....5..9.6.6.....18..3.165.. #015
3..4..58.2.185.4.9........661..7...5.........5...4..981........9.6.841.7.85..6..4 #019
[/code]


I have started to learn ALS so I thought that I would try it on your puzzles, the ones BEYOND wapati.

#002
One ALS and several small patterns.

#007 . . . Bond, James Bond. Cool
This needs chains, is what I see. <sigh>

#015
Two ALS, a swordfish and some other fine dining.

#019
One ALS and many patterns does it, nice! Smile


Danny, how did you handle #007?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wapati,

I'm assuming that Colors and Multiple Colors are acceptable steps.

Code:
Puzzle #002:
 8..9...3.93...1.26..62....8.8.64.................13.6.2....53..16.3...85.9...2..1

     b7  Naked  Pair                     <> 47   [r9c1],[r9c3]
   c4b5  Naked  Pair                     <> 57   [r2c4],[r9c4]
         Colors                          <> 4    [r2c3],[r3c2],[r3c8]
         Colors                          <> 7    [r3c2],[r3c8]
         Multiple Colors                 <> 4    [r5c2],[r6c2]

         finned Franken Swordfish c16b7\r38b4   [r5c2],[r6c2]<>7

   c2    Naked  Pair                     <> 15   [r1c2],[r6c2]
         XYZ-Wing [r2c7]/[r1c9]+[r4c7]   <> 7    [r3c7]
         Colors                          <> 4    [r3c7],[r6c9]
         Colors                          <> 7    [r2c3],[r4c3]

Code:
Puzzle #007:
 6.45........6..8...15.....65..8..21.29..3..68.68..9..34.....93...9..3........81.2

 r4  b5  Naked  Pair                     <> 67   [r5c4],[r5c6],[r6c4],[r6c5]
   c7b6  Locked Candidate 2              <> 5    [r6c8]
   c4b8  Locked Candidate 2              <> 7    [r7c5],[r7c6],[r8c5],[r9c5]
         Colors                          <> 2    [r7c6]
         Colors                          <> 4    [r2c5]
   c6b2  Locked Candidate 1              <> 4    [r5c6]
   c6b2  Locked Candidate 2              <> 2    [r2c5]

         finned Franken Jellyfish c149b6\r3678   [r3c7]<>7
         Locked Candidate 2 for                  [r6c8]<>7

         Multiple Colors                 <> 1    [r8c5]
         Multiple Colors                 <> 7    [r2c8]
         Multiple Colors                 <> 7    [r2c5]
   c36   X-Wing                          <> 1    [r7c4]
 r68     X-Wing                          <> 1    [r7c4]
 r139    Swordfish (222)                 <> 7    [r8c2]
 r8      Naked  Pair                     <> 25   [r8c4]
         XY-Wing  [r7c4]/[r7c9]+[r8c5]   <> 5    [r7c6]
         XY-Wing  [r7c6]/[r7c9]+[r8c4]   <> 7    [r7c4]

Code:
Puzzle #015:
 ..215.6..65.....2.4.8..2.....5..326..2..6..8..462..1.....5..9.6.6.....18..3.165..

   c1b4  Locked Candidate 1              <> 3    [r1c1]
 r2  b2  Locked Candidate 1              <> 4    [r2c9]
         Colors                          <> 8    [r4c2]
         Colors                          <> 3    [r2c9],[r3c5]
   c5    Naked  Pair                     <> 79   [r2c5],[r4c5],[r7c5]
         Multiple Colors                 <> 4    [r1c8],[r4c9],[r5c4],[r8c7]
         Multiple Colors                 <> 9    [r3c9]
     b5  Naked  Pair                     <> 79   [r4c4]
 r4      cloned Pair                     <> 79   [r4c4]
         Colors                          <> 7    [r3c9]
         Colors                          <> 9    [r1c2],[r9c2]
         Multiple Colors                 <> 7    [r8c3]
         Multiple Colors                 <> 9    [r1c1],[r2c9],[r6c8],[r8c3],[r9c4]
         Colors                          <> 7    [r6c9]

         finned Franken Swordfish r59b6\c248   [r4c2]<>7

Code:
Puzzle #019:
 3..4..58.2.185.4.9........661..7...5.........5...4..981........9.6.841.7.85..6..4

 r1  b1  Locked Pair                     <> 79   [r3c3]
 r1  b1  cloned Pair                     <> 79   [r1c6]
     b8  Naked  Triple                   <> 123  [r7c4],[r7c5],[r7c6]
 r7      cloned Triple                   <> 234  [r7c4],[r7c5],[r7c6]
 r5  b6  Locked Candidate 1              <> 1    [r5c4],[r5c5],[r5c6]
         XYZ-Wing [r6c6]/[r1c6]+[r5c5]   <> 2    [r4c6],[r5c6]
         UR Type 1 [r35c13]              <> 48   [r5c3]

         finned X-Wing    c39\r59     [r5c2]<>3
         finned Swordfish c578\r359   [r5c9]<>2

         XY-Wing  [r5c9]/[r1c9]+[r4c7]   <> 2    [r3c7]
     b3  Naked  Pair                     <> 37   [r3c8]
   c7b6  Locked Candidate 2              <> 2    [r4c8],[r5c8]

         finned Franken Swordfish c57b9\r359   [r5c9]<>3
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daj95376 wrote:
wapati,

I'm assuming that Colors and Multiple Colors are acceptable steps.



I don't use colors, or multi colors and can get most puzzles done without them. This is only the second puzzle I have worked on that colors will solve and I cannot.

#007

This is the step where I am defeated.

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Multiple Colors                 <> 7    [r2c5]
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Multiple Colors elimination is very obtuse. Here's its equivalent as a fish.

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finned Franken Swordfish r39b1\c258   [r2c5]<>7
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Danny,

I can follow ones outlined like you did above.

I'll start learning mutants and frankens as I don't want to learn colors.
(No good reason, just stubborn. ) Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
   basics
1x Jellyfish
2x XY-Wings
3x UR Type 1
?x finned/sashimi X-Wing, Swordfish, Jellyfish

Code:
 +-----------------------+
 | 9 . . | 6 . . | 1 . 5 |
 | . 5 . | 2 7 . | . 9 3 |
 | . . . | . . . | . . 4 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | 2 9 . | 5 . . | 3 4 . |
 | . 1 . | . 4 . | 7 . . |
 | . . . | . . . | . 2 . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | 7 . . | 4 2 . | 9 . . |
 | . 2 . | 1 . 6 | . . . |
 | 6 4 9 | . . . | . . . |
 +-----------------------+
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